Let’s say I, a middle aged cis man went to my doctor, wanting gender affirming care, and my doctor wanted to provide - what, if anything, would the treatment/care consist of? Just making sure my testosterone level was up to Hegseth-approved standards?
For men: hair plugs, Rogaine, testosterone replacement therapy, those compression vests Inget advertised on YouTube.
For women: botox, breast enlargement, Brazilian butt lift, laser hair removal, hormone replacement therapy,
That’s a shirt list off the top of my head.
Men can also need a mastectomy if they start developing breasts due to some medical condition or hormodal issues. Something called gynecomastia .
Penis enlargement, testicular implants, implants to look more muscular
Sure, a lot of it is exactly the same. Hormone treatments for men with low-T, hair removal or replacement, plastic surgery, etc. We don’t trend to call it gender affirming care in cisgender people, but that’s exactly what it is.
I had breast cancer. The chemo and mastectomy were cancer care. The reconstruction of my breast is not cancer care, it is gender affirming care, having two breasts affirms my gender as a cis woman.
Reconstruction is not necessary at all for cancer care and in fact causes more surgeries than if I was to just have the cancer removed and go on the rest of my life with one boob.
They just don’t call it “gender affirming” care if you are cis, they just call it healthcare.
I have some many questions… feel free to answer as many as you want, if any at all:
- Where does the breast tissue come from?
- How does one sculpt a nipple?
- Are they as sensitive as before? I mean, on the receiving end of stimuli, does it feel like an organically grown whole grain breast, or is it more like… uh… elbow skin? I have no idea how the neuroplastics would work…
- Does having breast cancer on one side automatically increase the chances of cancer on the other side? I would think symmetry isn’t a given?
- Were you able or allowed to choose size and shape?
- Hope you’re doing well today. Not a question, I just wanted to say (write) it. Live long and prosper.
Sorry for the stupid questions, but of all places I feel this is a safe space for them…
Yep. They also have implants for those who have had their testicles removed due to testicular cancer. I would say that is more gender affirming because you could make the argument that replacing a breast will have cosmetic effects.
Is this a joke question? Like others have pointed out, gender affirming care is even more popular among cis people than trans.
On an absolute scale sure, because most people are cis. But on a per person scale is it more popular for cis people? This is purely anecdotally speaking, but the only people I personally know who’ve had gender affirming care are trans
I sincerely doubt that. Almost every plastic surgery that’s not a result of a disfiguring accident is gender affirming care. Viagra is gender affirming care. From hair plugs to Corvette is gender affirming care.
Yea. Most cosmetic procedures would count. I don’t see how a woman getting breast implants is one iota different than a trans woman getting top surgery.
Never heard of viagra, penis enlargement surgery, breast enlargement surgery, lip filler, botox etc?
People take hormones for non-transition reasons too.
menopause = hrt.
all for the crime of being born with ovaries and daring to age out of the use of them.
Well, yeah. I’m a cis woman who takes oestrogen because they removed my ovaries; I do so for gendered reasons, there’s a reason why I don’t take testosterone instead which would be an equally valid way of replacing my missing hormones from a physiological perspective. I also shave my face for gendered reasons, because people are a lot more judgemental about women having facial hair than men. Cis men who are born with penises but lose them get phalloplasty. And so on.
Most gender affirming care is for cis people, they just don’t want to admit it 😂
Are you stating that care that affirms your gender is gender affirming care?!?
What’s the difference, my opinion, the definition of gender affirming care is.
Treatment to allow your external body to match the characteristics that you feel your body should be.
Which would include, boob jobs, hair transplants. hormones, anything to build up muscle, anything to fix erectile dysfunction etc…
of course not, it would expose thier hyprocisy, of denying transgender people thier surgeries.
Yes.
Gynomastia is a thing that causes some boys to endure a lot of bullying in school. Erectile dysfunction causes issues for older men. The treatment for both of those conditions is gender affirming treatment.
Loads of others, too.
But more to the point, it should not matter why a person needs gender affirming care. That should be a decision between a patient and their doctors, not me, not you, and not the government.
I have a testosterone gel I apply daily and get regular blood tests to monitor my hormones.
Gave me chest hair, thicker facial hair, and decent erections.
I thought those gels were a scam. Do you apply it where you want (more) hair growth?
I’m sure the internet is full of scam gels. In the US, I’m pretty sure you need a doctor’s prescription for the real thing.
Just a heads up so you’re sure you’re both talking about the same thing here.
Possibly, my impression is 100% based on internet advertising and what I’ve seen for sale at US gas stations. I’m thankful I don’t need it, I just wasn’t aware that non-scam versions of creams like that existed.
I rub it into my underarms where the skin is thinnest. It just increases your T levels so more body hair starts growing, it’s not like rogain.
It definitely works, I go into a 3rd party lab for a blood test every three months so I can see exactly where my hormone levels are at, they also test liver, blood numbers, and look for any cancer signifiers.
These was perscribed to me by one of those online telehealth deals, they also do boner pills and hair loss stuff.
Look at any tough-guy gym… There’ll be testosterone offered to make you a “real man”.
Or breast implants for women who want bigger boobs. Those are both designed to help cis folks feel more like they’re the man/woman they think they need to be.
Which is why if gender affirming care is ever outlawed in my purple/red state, I’m going to be reporting the fuck out of the maga gym near by.
Look at any tough-guy gym…
That’s not gender affirming care. That’s just men practicing their masculinity.
It may be founded in insecurities, but if severe enough those would be treated by a psychologist if an actual treatment were to take place.Or breast implants for women who want bigger boobs.
Also not gender affirming, but a practice to live up to a perceived beauty standard.
Gender affirming care is for people suffering from gender dysphoria, if you don’t suffer from that, you literally have no need for gender affirming care.
Is “I hate my shoulders, I wish they were broader so that I could look more manly” and “I hate my boobs, I look like a plank, not a real woman” not dysphoric enough for you?
That’s dysmorphia, not dysphoria
“I wish I was a little bit taller, I wish I was a baller, I wish I had a girl who looked good I would call her, I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a '64 impala”
So is buying a classic car gender affirmation?
That’s not dysphoric but an issue with the standards for being what you feel you are.
Living up to ideals is not the same as being a prisoner in a body of a different gender than what you identify as.
Having a penis and hating it to a point where you want it removed, is not the same as having a penis that you think is to small.
Those are VERY different issues.The issues may be valid, they are just not the same as gender dysphoria.
This has big “only trans people have gender identity” energy.
Straw man argument.
You don’t know the meaning of the word.
not gender affirming care
just men practicing their masculinity
how is it different if you have to take medication/surgery to do so?
It’s not the surgery that makes it different, people also have penis enlargement surgery, it’s still not at all similar to having gender dysphoria.
Gender affirming treatment is a specific term for people who have gender dysphoria, so without that you can’t have gender affirming care. It’s like saying a sprained leg and a broken leg is the same, when the underlying problems are very very different.
roiding up, PED is most certainly gender affirming care, that is also railed on transgendered people. and you see how all those obsessed with it, try justify its usage by saying it "aint bad, or i know its a secret, or people use it to have a better time getting stronger,etc)
yes. from as small as hair transplants to blue chews. heck even the mil will give low t soldiers shots.
What about those little blue pills?
Even gas stations can provide something like that. Totally unregulated, of course.
Viagra/cialis/etc and testosterone supplements if your numbers are “low” are the most common for men.
