Chrome is one of the first things I disable on my Android devices, and I hate the idea of signing up for any accounts just to access local files.

But Canon welcomed me with a big surprise, and a fuck you, too!

  • @thisNotMyName@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    I figured out how to connect my Nikon to their app (finally) - works somehow, most of the time, but you can only transfer photos compressed to 2MB jpeg. Is there a reason for that? I think it’s annoying to have to delete the duplicates later on

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      13 days ago

      but you can only transfer photos compressed to 2MB jpeg.

      I don’t own a Nikon camera, but my Sony, Canon, and Panasonic camera apps allow you to set the size of the transferred photo to “original”, and they do default to something smaller, so I always change it first.

      Do you have that option?

    • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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      The problem is, you don’t always know they will do this until after you pay your money for them.

        • @kent_eh@lemmy.ca
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          15 days ago

          Of course, it always is.

          But a lot of this type of enshittification can be difficult to learn about without getting your hands on thw product first. Especially if it’s a new model.

  • @krf@szmer.info
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    106 days ago

    Firefox doesn’t support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application. Massive dick move by forcing account creation tho.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      156 days ago

      Firefox doesn’t support WebUSB, Web Bluetooth and several other integrations, so applications that need to connect to other devices need some kind of Chrome application.

      If those features in the browser were needed, I could be a little less infuriated (they didn’t have to break previously working features, though).

      However, Chrome was needed only to sign up and log in. Once that was done, I was able to disable chrome, and the app continued to work after restarting it.

      Why they couldn’t implement a log in directly in the app, or use the device webview api, is beyond me.

    • @InnerScientist@lemmy.world
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      26 days ago

      I’m just waiting for that WebAntivirus support to land in chrome, for all those websites that tell you to install an antivirus.

  • @KulunkelBoom@lemm.ee
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    76 days ago

    bye bye Canon. You were once the light of my photographic life - now you’re dead to me for pulling this bullshit.

  • @RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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    107 days ago

    I don’t have much experience with cameras but isn’t it usually sd cards that you can pull out and transfer using a sd reader? Does the camera have internal storage that needs an account and app?

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      57 days ago

      For data transfer only, yes, you can eject the SD card and copy your files.

      But the app is used for other features, too. So you’re inconvenienced no matter what feature you use.

      • @RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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        37 days ago

        Yeah I guessed that much but your original post was a bit confusing as it doesn’t mention the app. Hence the question.

  • @Flickerby@lemm.ee
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    46 days ago

    Is there something about Chrome specifically that’s no bueno nowadays? I haven’t heard anything but to be fair I don’t really keep myself in that loop too much now

    • @CompassRed@discuss.tchncs.de
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      96 days ago

      There’s a general negative attitude towards chromium browsers due to some anticompetitive practices pulled by Google in addition to privacy concerns and probably some more issues I’m not aware of. So that includes chrome, but also edge and most other chromium based browsers.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      56 days ago

      I don’t want any of my business being shared with Google, including the fact that I use Canon products. It’s just yet another data point for them to weaponize via targeted ads and data brokering.

      And simply opening Chrome means that a data siphon to Google was just opened, so telemetry data would have been collected immediately.

  • That Weird Vegan
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    57 days ago

    In terms of the chrome only thing, you can probably use a UA switcher on firefox and it will probs let you in. It’s probably just checking your user agent, nothing more.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      46 days ago

      It actually wanted the chrome app to be enabled and only opens the chrome app for the sign up/log in process.

      So a user agent switch wouldn’t have helped in this case.

  • @skisnow@lemmy.ca
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    47 days ago

    There seems to be a common thread amongst all the Japanese camera manufacturers that their software is all “this must be done in exactly this (often convoluted) way”.

    I’m convinced that they put their hardware engineers in charge of writing the software.

  • @Eddbopkins@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Well canon seems like a product to avoid. This person shouldn’t now know better for their future purchases l.

  • @TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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    07 days ago

    Not to defend Canon but can you not just use USB or transfer via SD Card? Just asking because I just got an EOS RP.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      47 days ago

      The app was used for live view and also geotagging, in addition to file transfer. So this requirement affects several features.

      • Ada
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        17 days ago

        For what it’s worth, you can generally record a GPS tracking in another app or on another device and then use your photo editing software to add the coordinates to the photos after the fact.

        • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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          37 days ago

          I’ve used this method before, but it’s extra work.

          I have an old point and shoot Sony that has GPS built-in. Newer models removed this and need the app to do the same thing. It’s like they went backwards on purpose.

          • Ada
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            27 days ago

            Yeah, it’s extra work, and doesn’t change the infuriating aspect of enshitification, but it’s an option if you absolutely do not want to sign in to the app

      • @TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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        17 days ago

        Alright well I need Geotagging so guess I’ll have to sign up. I completely forgot how shitty Canon were because I got massive tunnel vision while searching for a camera to buy…

        • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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          47 days ago

          Some other users pointed out that you can stay on an older version before the signup requirement and it will continue to work fine even without an internet connection. That’s what I’m going to do.

          • @TheFrirish@jlai.lu
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            17 days ago

            So to get Geotagging I need the camera to be connected to the phone on the latest firmware?

            • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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              27 days ago

              You just need the app. Either the older version (no account needed) or the new app (with an account).

              But this also depends on the camera. I believe new ones can geotag live via Bluetooth (with the app). This is how my Panasonic camera does it.

              But you can also set the app to keep a log of your location, so as you take photos, you can have the app tag them before transfer.

              Check your camera’s manual to see how it works.

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caOP
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      27 days ago

      The app was used for live view and also geotagging, in addition to file transfer. So this requirement affects several features.

  • @Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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    2378 days ago

    Forward it to Louis Rossman. He’ll make an entire video about it and add it to the wiki tracking these scummy companies.

    • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      768 days ago

      I agree with pretty much all of that guy’s takes, but he REALLY sketches me out for some reason. I don’t know what it is.

      • @BURN@lemmy.world
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        26 days ago

        I cannot stand him. I agree with the broad idea of his message, but Jesus he’s insufferable and constantly feels like he’s talking down to his audience

      • @brax@sh.itjust.works
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        178 days ago

        I agree with him on a lot of the tech stuff, but there’s some subtle hints of shit that I can’t consciously place that really bother me.

        I really started to notice it when he was looking for a new location - the way that he talked to and about some people and things in those videos bothered me. Likewise, the way he moved to a red state because it meant he could pay less in taxes and shit. There’s something more but I can’t put my finger on it.

        • @ProvableGecko@lemmy.world
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          -58 days ago

          He admitted he used to be openly right wing and he is still very pro-NATO. That’s Ok though, I still like his fuck cars videos.

          • @AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world
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            58 days ago

            Implying he isn’t right wing anymore, or just not openly?

            I agree with most of the stuff he says, he just doesn’t seem very nuanced and I find the angry tone slightly off-putting. I like NJB tho, probably because he’s just sarcastic at some points for effect.

      • Shadowedcross
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        68 days ago

        Same, not sure why. Maybe I heard something about him I didn’t like, but have since forgotten.

      • Noxy
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        37 days ago

        He acts like a somethingawful/4chan veteran. Every now and then something along those lines slips out and rubs me the wrong way too.

        Like he’s often the good kind of libertarian, but occasionally also the bad kind.

        • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Ahhh but I was a LUEser, a goon, then a heavy user of /b/ (until about 2009.) I don’t see myself in him at all hahaha

          • Noxy
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            27 days ago

            I used none of these sites and I’m telling you he seems like the type from the perspective of an outsider, and occasional victim/target of those kinds of sites :P

            • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              27 days ago

              I’m sorry for your experience D:

              I was a heavy user as a teen, and I definitely got into the stupid edgy humor but it was never directed at individuals for me. Then I grew up.

      • @malin@thelemmy.club
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        27 days ago

        I’d say the only thing ‘sketchy’ about Rossman is that he’s a normal human being.

        It’s rare to see someone independent in our homogenized society. It makes sense that someone like you would be afraid of them.

        • @seralth@lemmy.world
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          57 days ago

          Naw dude is just inherently sketchy. His mannerisms and way of talking are two big ones.

          He’s the kinda guy that gives reason to the existence of the concept of a face guy. Rossman is not a face guy.

        • @Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          27 days ago

          Nah it’s not that. And his “independent” takes are basically whatever is popular opinion on Lemmy (and formerly Reddit when I was on there.)

    • @Siresly@lemm.ee
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      18 days ago

      I heard he was entertaining the thought of turning his role in Tropic Thunder into a full spinoff movie.