Just be sure to build walls even if temporary after you get down a ways because cave ins are deadly, in construction there are more deaths from trenches than anything else.

People that get buried like up to their chest or neck can seem fine and get dug out but as soon as they get dug out they die within like a minute and it is irreversible there’s no way to stop it you’re capillaries get like crushed from the weight.

I am not sure, I really do not have any pine resin to speak of and not sure if it would help what I have going on here anyway. But I was thinking it bunch of sticks over the trench and then smaller sticks over top and then a layer of maybe white pine needles and then saw dust on top of there, and then it would be nice to have some sort of flat surface on there that is what is giving me pause. But I also have to build doors on the entrances I’m running out of time here.

Says the brigading tanky stroking off Russia and China.

Your argument is too stupid to refute, only a total fucking moron would want China or Russia’s government, get the fuck out of here.

Looking to getting takkonite or something, the only type of explosive you might be able to get fairly easily, and save yourself the trouble and use that to excavate as much as possible. I did mine all by hand and it is exponentially harder the deeper you go. A lot of the dirt I have to move three times. I wish I could show you some pictures I’m actually working on one right now.

I am building one now, wish I could attach pictures to show you, but I have sort of two stories, 12 ft by 18 ft of a sheet metal roof, no walls yet, then a sort of trench that goes maybe 12 ft at 6 to 9 ft deep and then another length of steps up and down sort of each way.

Used pieces of wood I screwed together and such on the walls of the cellar to keep it from caving in which is actually what I am doing right now. I am using mine to grow Gourmet mushrooms in the winter, after I seal it up it will stay above freezing. Not sure how I will seal it though for now I just have logs placed over the Dugout parts. I could throw a shitload of leaves on top but I am worried that would just rot and I do not want rot around my mushroom and want to stay away from plastic although for this year I think I will wrap the walls in plastic sheeting.

But I may just use Sawdust to insulate the roof but I still need something to put before and after that.

I just joined but lemmy does not seem to have a running Karma total attached to each user right? Or is that just this instance that does not have that?

Finally is not accurate, I have known this my entire life and for over 16 years have been evangela sizing about the need for better opposition politicians offering a new deal rather than plutocratic rot led by the most unpopular candidates they could possibly find. Unpopular and candidates not fit for the moment. Everyone knows they are being screwed if not by whom. It has long been clear either the Democrats channel that anger or the Republicans will. The Democrats refused so now the Republicans will. And those Democrats are blaming everybody else. But they knew the situation and refused to change their strategy written in 1990.

Or arrogance and hubris of villains in politics, painting themselves as the lesser evil while aligned with their opposition against the voters they hsve contempt for.

Also many will remove your comments without telling you, it appears to be posted, I learned reveddit showed you what was removed.

But yeah mods work for free so allowing their petty tyranny is a selling point of the gig, not sure how lemmy works, did see one dude that said banned user arguing with people on another instance.

As anti-establishment and highly critical of the Democratic Party I haven’t seen the exact same thing here is on Reddit

They did not call out the true mofivation of lawmakers so they are complicit.

I got a 3 day ban, 2nd offence, on my 6th account, after the 3-day ban I abandon the account.

Only took 6 weeks this time and I was watching myself. They have dishonest moderation At Site wide level and I do not want to use it at all either, unless maybe two Shuffle people to the fediverse.

It is not a misunderstanding of the intentions so much as they are playing by the old rules where you do not call something for what it is out of polity.

An old decorum only exercised by the weak Democratic establishment now.

The Republicans do more than call out for what it is, they lie and accuse you of being the problem for their own perversions. But our Democrats refuse to even truthfully call a problem.

Well do not stop there, you should explain why the other side doesn’t get more votes. Because the opposition party is worthless at best. Being better than the other guy has never been enough to comfortably win elections and we already knew that but that is the only thing we are offering. The way to get elected is not to be half as Republican as the republicans, it is to be Champion popular reform and loudly fight for it. To call out villains by name, to have a, to have a fucking spine.

We are doomed with this same opposition party and Power and they are despite the last election. We should all agree that’s a failure. Nobody answers for that? We allowed the same power Brokers to do the next one?

Most of the referendum laws sponsored by voters are Constitutional Amendments that take an extra supermajority of 3/4 I think to overturn them. Others like Florida it is just statutory law and when they passed that law allowing felons to vote the lawmakers just jammed it up with other laws so only like 200 of them were registered to vote election time.

He did not support abolition until well into the civil war look it up.

He removed missouri’s general or whatever keeping them from joining confeds for endorsing the idea in fact.

Regardless that same party abandoned the former slaves to steal an election after rampant corruption.

So any example of the civil war era is also disallowed by your logic. It was not perfect so therefore your example can be discredited.

Lincoln did not even want emancipation at first, and grant was corrupt and let his admin loot the government, then abandoned reconstruction to jim crow in a deal to get to keep the 1876 election they stole from tillman for hayes.

That republican party? Hardly.

Yet you do not indulge my question, give me one example that cannot be dismissed with your logic dismissing the new deal?

Yes anytime the new deal is brought up the detractors say that minorities were discriminated against, so, nothing they did counts. Defective logic, nothing anyone did ever would count using that logic.

Give me one historical example where you could not find injustice to negate using an example from? Just one. Nothing now would count. Nothing in us history.

Using that argument is telling of where your head is at, perhaps actively stymying resistance, to accelerate the decline mistakenly believing something better would replace it. That is the more charitable take on your use of that argument too.

My point is we organize and take the dem party, strong leadership that can build and run a pol machine, we could get back there in 2029, assuming r’s are too busy infighting and too disenchanted to steal an election they clearly lost. All state level cheating still losing the election that is and congress and scotus not granting it to the loser anyway.