I didn’t say if God changed though, I said if God changed what they willed. From some quick Googling (I haven’t actually read the bible), this seems to happen in the bible (Jeremiah 26:13). God can change their actions without changing themself.

The Euthyphro dilemma is moreso about polytheistic religions. It doesn’t work with nor was it written about Monotheism.

2 millennia of Christian philosophy would disagree with you there.

No it’s not? I’m arguing that morality must be something separate from God. If the only thing that makes something morally right is that God wills it, then if God ever changes what they will, what is morally right will change.

You’ve just moved some words around. God must have reasons for thinking something is good, otherwise goodness would be arbitrary. You can argue that god is only one who can know those reasons/criteria, but I don’t think there’s a good argument that these reasons/criteria can’t exist without them.

Because God must use some criteria to assess if something is morally right or not, otherwise morality would be arbitrary (see the Euthyphro dilemma). These criteria can exist without God, therefore morality can exist without God.

Doesn’t matter if they do, Lemmy cuts off the connection after streaming the number of bytes it wants.