LurkingLuddite

No and yes.

In fairness to him, most politicians are both stupid and paid to make bad decisions, so he’s sadly probably still right…

Yea, I mostly said it as that was the context of the convo from, “go back to reddit”. Really, “telling someone off” politely and with info is hardly telling them off at all.

Which is exactly why it shouldn’t be condoned or supported.

When your motivation doesn’t extend past stupid ape brain, you’re doing it wrong.

Nah, this was a bit nebulous of a discussion since the original comment wasn’t exactly spelling out their intent.

After a few more replies, it looks like they weren’t trying to say bad ideologies should be tolerated in any form, more of just saying the, “go back to reddit” stuff is indeed stooping to a low that only the too intolerant use.

In the off-chance that someone is merely parroting bigotry/ideology that they were awash in and don’t truly believe, it is always better to tell them off in ways that don’t tokenize and reduce them to a charicature of the ideology. Especially don’t dismiss them in ways that allow them to dismiss you just as easily. “Go back to reddit” is tokenizing your own response, which just fuels division and enlightens noone.

Yes, though as the person you’re responding to is trying to point out, using the Paradox of Tolerance to tolerate the intolerable because of some appeal to hypocrisy is exactly not how to use the paradox of tolerance.

While hypocrisy is an important part of the lessons to take from it, the hypocrisy parts are supposed to be about not stooping to their level in the process of not tolerating them as opposed to having to tolerate them.

But that is unironically reddit behavior to use such insulting and dismissive language rather than saying… “such talk is not welcome here”.

Immaturity shouldn’t be acceptable, even from the “correct” opinion holder.

You can really tell the people that still operate on that mindset. “Number must go up” is apparently pretty stupid motivation in most contexts!