His behaviour sure doesn’t help.

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    He will be the most hated american president SO FAR. I believe in americans, they can do worse.

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      Remember, George Bush Jr was so hated that Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize simply for not being George Bush Jr.

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      The only thing scarier than Trump is someone of equal character but actually competent. I wanted to write ten times as competent at first, but then realized that’s the same thing as Trump.

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      This was my reaction. I read the question and thought “Optimistic much?”

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    Easily without a doubt. He has the lowest approval rating of any president before he stopped them from tracking it.

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    (Insert that thing from The Simpsons)

    No, the most hated US president so far.

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      He does fit, but remember: He’s just the symptom and if the Republicans wanted too, Trump would be gone in 24h. There are just many evil people who keep Trump were he is while pushing him one way or the other to get what they want.

      Trump has been an awful human being long before he became president, so no sympathy needed, but what is being done to him is elder abuse.

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    I think he’s the most hated living person in the history of the world, if you go by number of people who hate him. There were less than half as many people around when Hitler was alive.

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    It’s hard to remember how much we hated Bush II back in the day. The fact that he is now just lumped in with the other surviving presidents today for me is the real demonstration of just how much worse Trump is.

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        During Trump I, I maintained that Bush Jr. was far worse due to the deaths and destabilization from invasions, Guantanamo, mass surveillance, unauthorized drone strikes, and on and on.

        Not halfway through Trump II, he has definitely far surpassed Bush Jr. 😭

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      Bush II should have swung besides Saddam, but trump has dashed any hopes I have for holding GWB accountable for pissing away the future of the middle class to murder the shit out of people on the other side of the world.

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      I remember flying into Midland Texas during Trump’s first term and seeing a poster of Bush II with the caption “Bet you miss me now!”

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      Or it is proof that over time you start forgetting how bad it was and it will unfortunately be the same with Trump.

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        It’s hard to keep perspective over the decades. I was more passionate back then, and he really did some horrible things, but I don’t remember feeling like he was so, I don’t know, disgusting of a human being as Trump.

        Time will tell I guess

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      I think Bush was bad but a lot of the bad stuff he did was somewhat reversible (ICE existed , plus it’s not his fault that ICE is now used as a papers-please. There was PATRIOT but we reversed it so it’s actually a great example of what I mean.) and relatively short-term. Reagan, meanwhile, made a giant hole in the infrastructure that is still ingrained within everything US today.

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        But ICE was literally created by the Bush admin along with the rest of the DHS, and the Patriot Act wasn’t reversed so much as disseminated into earmarks attached to various spending bills so it’s actually even harder to get those freedoms back. Even our current immigration system is descended from Bush era policy, including the fucking wall.

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        Lmfao, are you fucking kidding?

        Do you not remember the Iraq and Afghanistan wars? The constant bombing of the middle east and the trillions of dollars wasted over decades?

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      To me there’s no comparison. Bush Jr. is responsible for a million Iraqi civilian deaths. As much as people wish it were so, Trump doesn’t hold a candle to that (yet).

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        Sure, but the question was, who is more hated? I do not think that globally at the moment the population thinks about, let alone actively hates, Bush Jr these days.

        Yes Trump has his core base, but man, it really feels like if you don’t love him, you hate him.

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    Dumbest - yes Most incompetent - yes Most corrupt - yes Most criminal - yes Most hated? - not yet

    Because of the fucking cult base he’s created, whose loyalty is reinforced by faux news, and do not question anything he says.

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    If we survive Trump. We will be weaker in so many ways. The institutions that underpin our democracy have been severely damaged. I also expect a severe economic downturn over the next few years.

    I worry that the next Republican President will be younger more calculating and energetic. They will look at the Trump era as a blueprint for taking permanent political control of an already damaged system.

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      I believe that the best years of our country are behind us. The erosion of the ethical values of those serving in public office the ‘acceptance of daylight corruption,’ betrayal of our allies, and the attack on education, intellectualism, and renewable energy will set us back for a long time.

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      Whoever comes next will be blamed for the state of the economy and the government.

      There’s just one sliver of hope: When Trump keels over the Republicans will tear each other qpart like cats in a bag. That’s your opportunity. You have to get the right people in, you (the “left of MAGA”, basically normies) will win an easy landslide just that one time…

      I’m British and this is what happened here - the right briefly in disaray allowed our centre-left party to win big. Just once… now Labour are blamed for everything and are getting destroyed in the polls.

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          They’re way left of the Tories and Reform. But yes, that’s what I was getting at with the “right” people. If Americans fight for better Deomcratic candidates between now and 2029 then they have a chance. They’ll win big when Trump goes anyway so the question is: Who benefits?

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            I’m not from the US or UK, but I assumed that Starmer having directly succeeded Corbyn had a hand in or was beholden to those in Labor who politically assassinated Corbyn. Reading a bit more (Starmer’s Resignation Speech and Corbyn’s Rebuttal | Telegraph.com) I don’t think it’s only unjust blame. I assumed the Labour party got completely ratfucked under Starmer.

            But we’re seeing the same rightward and fierce anti-socialistic / anti-pacifist / anti-solidarity push in France and Germany too. Like Labour, the SPD and Greens in Germany also aided and abetted in the genocide in Gaza. What sane party is left to vote for?

            In the USA I can’t imagine the Democrats doing any serious reconstruction or “new deal” program to undo the economic, institutional and political damage Trump has done. Not with all the plutocrats, establishment and media against them. Just look at the reaction to Mahdami. Or them shooting themselves in the foot with Platner lol (See this article from 2025 that should have cancelled him).

            Honestly, I believe the era of social or liberal democracy is pretty much over. It’s like they are doing everything they can so fascist parties rise and take power. They don’t know how to do anything else. The elites are not dumb, but they are stupid. They’ll accelerate and drive us straight into a global collapse.

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    Trump is among the worst humans in history.

    like mad Roman emperor level.

    Raped children, casually murdered 150 school girls, Hitler style Gestapo and concentration camps, unmatched level of corruption…

    like worst human in history, the question is maybe if he’s worse than Hitler, not Bush

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      He has yet to reign over the deaths of millions of people for being in the out-group.

      Don’t misunderstand me, Trump is a walking bag of syphilitic, pus filled, nazi cumsocks. But he’s not attained quite the level of warcrimes Hitler did. Not yet anyway.

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          Again, not even close to the number of people the Nazis killed. Auschwitz probably killed more people a month than Trump and his regime have been responsible for to date.

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            …they estimate that somewhere between 8 and 19 million people could die, including 4.5 million children, by 2030. - NPR

            Seems like his holocaust of indifference is well on it"s way to surpass the actual one.

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            Consider how many people died as effect of his decision (I.e. pulled funding from Africa). I know it’s not same ballpark, but it doesn’t mean it’s fine

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          Not even close to the number the Nazis killed, directly or indirectly.

          • 1.2% of Americans did not survive his covid policies, compared to 0.15% in New Zealand a country that took it seriously. That is over a million excess and needless deaths of US Americans due to Trump’s ego and stupidity.

            Not nothing.

            But if you want death s in concentration camps more like the Nazis, there are many deaths in ICE concentrations camps, they don’t get access to healthcare and barely enough food. Probably not in the millions, but they are not finished yet.

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              This is the thing that gets me the most. A million Americans literally died under his watch. What more would it take to make a candidate unelectable for a 2nd term? I was gobsmacked to see it happen.

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      Lmfao, honestly, this thread is making me realize that Trump has a point when he talks about Trump derangement syndrome.

      Multiple comments now have compared him to Hitler, which makes you either ignorant of present day reality or grossly ignorant of history.

      Like honestly, “casually murdered 150 schoolgirls”. Do you know how many fucking innocent children Bush got killed in Afghanistan and Iraq?? It’s more than 150.

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        Sure buddy. The thing is that Trumps’ death toll is just getting started and it’s going to be a big one.

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        Yes, but bush did not go to Esptein, or steal billions. He was bad, but it is a different leage of bad. He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.

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          or steal billions.

          Yes, billions of dollars was funneled from the US government, to defense contractors like Haliburton, explicitly to prop up the corporations of Bush and his friends like Cheney.

          He is responsible for over a million US exes during COVID. over 1.2% of Americans did not survive his first administration and died directly due to his ego.

          I mean fair point, but his COVID policy was also a direct reflection of the will of a huge amount of the American public. Fox News has more deaths in their hands because of COVID then Trump does if you want to be honest about the origin of the anti-vax attitude. It certainly didn’t start with Trump, though he was in a position to influence change and he didn’t.

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    Yep, at least the most hated since polling, and definitely the most hated in living memory

    He’s not the reason why the civilised world sneers at 'Murica, but he’s a huge symptom of it

    I never thought I’d see the day when we look back at Reagan and the Bushes as the less-shit of the modern presidents of that backwards shit hole country

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      He’s not the reason why the civilised world sneers at 'Murica, but he’s a huge symptom of it

      As a Canadian, I used to sneer at the US like one would sneer at an immature sibling.

      Now, “Made in the USA” feels dirty. I don’t feel like the USA can recover its place of former global respect in my lifetime.

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        From inside, “Made in the USA” feels like it’s going to be us chained to paying 2x the cost for wildly inferior products. See for example, cars.

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      I hate trump as much as the next guy, but “backwards shithole?” Don’t cut yourself on that edge, boss.

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    Even though it’s a highly contested competition, I think he might have a shot at the most hated person of the century.

    I would still pick Putin though, given his numerous other crimes and how he’s most probably responsible for Trump.

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    You can pick any president in history and find skeletons in their closets, and many have committed atrocities that far exceed any one thing that Trump has done, but Trump is actively dismantling the republic before our eyes and he will be remembered as in incompetent buffoon and his rise to power and his contributions to the end of American global hegemony will be studied by sociologists, historians and political scientists for ages to come.

    And in 100 years time, when they teach about this period of time in schools, all the kids will be able to think is “How could anybody just let that happen?”, yeah, it makes me irrationally upset about being lumped in with the people who abide by this farcical nonsense, or worse, with those who are actively participating in knowingly doing as much harm as possible.

    To say I hate him is an understatement. I’m going to frame his obituary.

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      You can pick any president in history and find skeletons in their closets, and many have committed atrocities that far exceed any one thing that Trump has done

      There is good reason to believe he ran a snuff ring and raped and killed children. He’s Caligula of American Presidents.

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        No argument here. He’s absolutely my number one most hated for that reason and many more. But it would be hypocritical of me to say that Trump is the only one guilty of bad behavior. He’s simply the first to be so publicly unapologetic about it.

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        His gutting of public services is going to and has already, killed millions. Why do people forget about that? He has done some heinous shit.

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    Hated by who?

    As a person, he is absolutely vile and disgusting. For one thing, he raped children and recently killed ~160 school girls. He combines the crookedness of Nixon, the dementia of Reagan, the genius of W and the child molesting of Clinton into one person.

    From the perspective of a citizen of a EU country that has blindly followed the US for several decades, I’d like to add one more thing. He is the first president who put a dent in the alliance between the US and Europe and who is really not our friend. He threatened Denmark and Greenland, puts random tariffs on EU products out of spite and worst of all, he appears to be a tool of Vladimir Putin, who has invaded a EU member.

    I do not think that ‘hate’ covers what I feel about this absolute piece of human garbage, but he is definitely one of the worst persons currently alive.