Im not currently banned, but they banned me for a bit for using the word revolution when referencing what America needs.

They also gave away user data to DHS cause they asked.

So. Yeah.

One just dropped on the coffeezilla main channel. Added.

It honestly feels like they’re a corporate plant with how they’re in a bunch of these comments.

The contract question has been answered. The Gormans publicly released their franchise agreement which explicitly states “the franchisee may also offer consignment services” directly contradicting BAM CEO Ammon McNeff’s claim that consignment was unauthorized under franchise rules. The CEO lied on camera and the document proves it.

On the security footage: on the night BAM seized the store, Ki McAllister, BAM’s Director of Operations, was on speakerphone when the Gormans informed him of the outstanding consignment. He acknowledged it and stated that since the new operator was taking over the business, he would be taking over the consignment as well. That exchange was captured on the store’s security camera and has been provided to law enforcement. BAM’s subsequent claim of ignorance about the collection is directly contradicted by their own Director of Operations on recorded footage. Several reviews by attorney’s above agree that that it is reasonable to believe there was knowledge of said consignment before the takeover.

The Gormans also have audio of McAllister saying “if we go the legal route it’s going to be a very expensive battle for you” which is the corporation explicitly threatening legal attrition against people trying to recover property that was taken from them.

BAM’s “reasonable cooperation” also included attempting to take down Ben’s Patreon to cut off his legal funding, getting his GoFundMe removed, and filing a RICO lawsuit against him, the Mansell family, and associates. Patreon’s own CEO called their takedown attempt a “despicable maneuver” and refused to comply, outright telling BAM to sue Patreon.

This isn’t bad record keeping. This is a documented corporate coverup with security footage, released contracts, recorded phone calls, and a paper trail of legal intimidation tactics. The only reason any of this is moving toward resolution is because of public pressure. Which is exactly why spreading it matters.

Here’s a link to all the documents made public so far, including the Gorman’s signed franchise agreement, BAMs old and new franchise agreements, Mansell’s signed consignment agreement, and more.

https://bamsucks.com/

You really sound like a corporate plant dude. “And anyone with a bunch of legos is obviously well off.” 1 - no? How is that even a statement? 2 - and how does that make it ok to steal from them?

Also, you keep saying it should stay private and in the courts…you do know that trials are a matter of public record…right? Like, open doors unless otherwise stated. The public actually has a right to know what goes on in a trial and the outcomes.

https://govfacts.org/rights-freedoms/criminal-justice-rights/trial-rights/why-criminal-trials-are-public-the-right-to-open-courts-explained/

100%

From what I could gather, it sounds like The Civil Rights Lawyer (videos above) is helping Ben, Tyler, and those involved connect with lawyers finally.

I personally think Ben is young, and it’s not like they teach this in schools and the police use this to their advantage. Quite the opposite actually, they send cops to our schools to teach kids that cops are nice, they’re on the side of justice, etc. And Ben believed that, which is why he talks to them so much. He believes the police are good people and are there to help him and I don’t think I can fault him all that much for that. A suburban white kid growing up wouldn’t likely have had any experiences that would break that propaganda.

Hopefully, after this, he’ll be more wary in the future, and immediately reach out to a lawyer (though would it get the same attention and results if he did? That’s a discussion in and of itself.) The police, and most of our laws, have always been to protect property over people. I mean, law enforcement derived itself from slave catchers 🙃

Yeah, I think lots of people are starting to wake up and see that whenever money can buy influence, it leads to corrupt governments. I believe Aristotle defined them, so maybe there was a bit of lag in that upload 🙃 lol

But really, I think people are starting to realize that capitalism isn’t the dream they were promised it would be. And, I mean, a system that can only exist through exploitation, that will always seek to deregulate itself, and that creates the conditions for those that rise to the top to be the most narcissistic, unempathetic, and most willing to exploit…I mean 🤷‍♂️

It’s so cyclical that you’d hope we’d learn eventually but idk.

I think that’s a great argument.

https://lemmy.zip/post/65910841

You’re a petty, sad individual my friend. And you do not meet this current moment. Your comment implies that it is ok for corporations to take advantage of individuals and that police collusion should remain in the dark and is not a matter of public concern.

What a pathetic capitalist authoritarian bootlicker.

You also believe that protests should remain quiet and out of sight too don’t you?

Disgusting.

And that discredits the argument for aiding someone taken advantage of by a corporation, the argument that there exists rampant police ineptitude and/or corruption how?

The existence of a GoFundMe to at least attempt to make a family whole does a lot more than the company doing nothing for years and threatening lawfare until they finally get some negative publicity.

Is Ben making money off of this? Yes. Can his actions still be morally correct? Yes.

We live under capitalism. We’ve tied our very survival to making money. How does that discredit what he’s attempting as you’re implying?

Joshua Johnson? Brandon Best? That you?

For what possible reason? The only reason any modicum of justice may be served is because of public pressure.

Ammon McNeff is that you?

Well, let’s do as much as we can to pressure legislators and the courts to hold parties accountable. The only reason anything is happening is because of the transparency and public response.

It clearly demonstrates how our justice system, our laws, are set up to benefit and protect capital and property over human life and wellbeing. And I think that’s what so many of us see more clearly.

An example, even if we assume that Tyler Shaw sues the American Fork PD and wins, it won’t be the officers involved, the chief of police, the DA, nor the judges who signed flippant warrants without any proper vetting, it will be the taxpayers who make them whole. The people suffer. At most, perhaps some of the officers involved may lose their jobs, which their corruption and/or ineptitude is a danger to the public in its own right.

While Ben can’t speak about this, the public certainly still can and hold pressure to those involved to keep things moving. The main goal of all of this is the corporation wants to sweep this under the rug as quickly as possible. Very similar to the Epstein files, just on a smaller scale.

I’ll add coffee to this big ole list when they come out. Just added the 2nd legal eagle video 👍

While potentially true, that doesn’t excuse any of the actions taken by the franchise owners, corporate, and especially the american fork police.

Ben might’ve done some antagonistic things, but it’s overall good to bring light to all of this. So, so, SO many other people and families are taken advantage by corporate America like this.

Biggest things are Ben and his friends are young and I think they trusted the police way too much. Did they do some things that could be considered antagonistic? Absolutely. And the whole claiming to flee to Mexico…ugghhh lol.

They have not caused physical or mental harm to anyone as far as we’re aware.

They may have instigated financial loss. However, that can also be easily argued that the initial action here was the company deciding not to make a family whole in any way.

And that, herein, is what we all see. Property and capital receiving preferential treatment over human life.

You’re welcome, I was updating my original post from a while back as videos came out. Reuploaded it given the latest update (the main link of the post) which is just outright censorship.

You’re doing the same thing that the asshat in the video does. “Oh, what are you, some kid? That’s not how the law works.”

It’s called an ad hominem fallacy. Regardless of someone’s appearance or stature, whether they look like a cartoon character who investigates mysteries (very fitting), that has nothing to do with their intelligence or the substance of their argument.

You then use a whataboutism fallacy claiming “well, what if x y or z happens.” Again, this distracts from the substance of the points being made and the evidence collected. We cannot control “what ifs.” What if a nearby supermassive black hole emits a quasar that atomizes our entire solar system? That might make it harder for them to win the case.

People have to protect people, as the videos show, corporations will fuck you and weaponize the justice system against you with overwhelming capital and former slave catchers will cover it up.

I don’t think there are many bots on here so I can only assume you’re a capitalist propagandist or just severely and painfully ignorant.

I didn’t link it as it’s still unlisted and I think having more people support his patreon is worthwhile given the legal battle he’s going up against with a $65M revenue corporation.

In the crossposted link there are some update videos they put out. In the latest one they said once part 3 is ready they’ll upload part 2 on youtube and it should be in the next week or so.

Part 2 is wild though…the police corruption is insane.

I might recommend a game called 1000xResist

Sometimes, the whale is too big to fit in the backpack. You can’t take everything with you. Keep this in mind when you reach the ending.

While we want everyone to have decent lives we have to reckon with the fact that there are people, even if they are provided everything that they need to have a decent and happy life, they will still choose to harm others around them to get ahead.

We call them billionaires.

And I believe that when faced with complex problems and fears, studies have shown around 30% of people will flock to authoritarianism. They crave not having to face ambiguity and a simple answer to complex problems they wish to hide from. Even if those answers are lies.